Martial Law had lost it effectiveness, and nobody obeyed the Martial Law. The Government was finished in East Pakistan.... We did not consider the emotional side which I think was wrong, we did not realize the troops, feeling. What ... was happening was that they were beaten up in many places, officers were insulted, they could not go out, and emotions were charged. Here we are, troops of a Government, and we cannot even get meat. Our plan was quite simple, that we will impose curfew and that we will go and arrest the leaders.
Q. Bhutto agreed to settle?
Q. On his suggestion?
Q. I think General Niazi has written that Tikka Khan ordered that the Pakistan army be more merciless than the massacre at Bukhara... by Chengis Khan and Halaku Khan and he said I want the land not the people and he said that General Rao Farman Ali matchlessly followed that order and in your diary you wrote that the green land of East Pakistan will be painted red.
Q. What is your opinion about Niazi's book?
Q. You ask us to meet him?
Q. What did Niazi say?
Q. Can you elaborate on the formation of the civil armed forces saying that you formed the Razakars?
Q. Whose brainchild was the Force?
Q. Who was at that time?
Q. His book is also dedicated to them.
Q. As far as danger was concern it was a war situation. In the book he said that the leaders of Al-Badar and Al-Shams were brought back along with the prisoners of war (POW).
Q. You have no knowledge?
Q. This is on the 13th (December 1971). So on 13th and 14th the intellectuals were...
Q. Western media and the independent international media hold you responsible, why?
Q. They have shown a lot of evidence. Nobody has refuted that so far.
Q. Killing of intellectuals actually started in October, because in Dhaka near Notre Dame [College] a doctor was killed. I mean it started earlier and 14th December saw culmination of the killing. That's one thing. Second is you were in charge of civil administration. General Niazi was looking after the front.
Q. You were in charge of civil administration and the political leaders say Golam Azam, Moulana Mannan, they had connections with you. They used to meet you, take advice, and may have executed those things. So it's logical that nothing could happen without your knowledge. Do you agree with it?
Q. Because you are the...
Q. It includes everything in administration.
Q. So General Niazi was responsible for that?
Q. Which date was this?
Q. Who were these people?
Q. After the liberation, I mean, in Bangladesh, in the Governor House there were some written documents in which the names of intellectuals killed were written by you.
Q. For what reasons?
Q. You lost your war against the independent media.
Q. No, no this was done on the night of 13th and 14th December.
Q. General Niazi claims also …. And you know that your book came before and General Niazi's book came afterwards. Now he squarely puts his blame on you. And you will have to write another book to .. I mean, explain.
Q. No. It is alleged to have been done by the Al-Badar and Al-Shams.
Q. You had no control over the Razakars?
Q. The development was done by the Martial Law Headquarters?
Q. There was the new batch of MNA's because you held an election.
Q. No. That's alright.
Q. But again I mean, during the 9 months did you know that Pakistan Army was killing many people, raping many women, killing children. It was happening with knowledge [of the] Pakistan Army. From March to December 16.
Q. I am not saying that the Army did not take into custody one or two people or killed one or two people. I mean the numbers were much higher... it was genocide.
Q. But why it was not reported in the Pakistan newspapers and in the East Pakistani newspapers because at that time we read newspapers avidly and newspapers from both West and East Pakistan.
Q. After 25th March?
Q. The entire period, I mean, in this period of your action, the action of the army ….
Q. Then why did you draft the surrender instrument?
Q. Who should start the process?